The Three lore

Sleeper

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A discussion about the Three background. Massive spoilers here, expand at your risk.
As far as i know the Three were mortals and ascended to gods alongside with Tol. It was described in the book of the moon, mentioned in game directly. I found this lore to be familiar - indeed the same thing happened in The Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind lore! The Tribunal (Vivec, Almalexia and Sotha Sil) were mortals once too, then, through series of events, they betrayed their friend and leader Nerevar and tapped into artifact of great power, ascending as gods. Dagoth Ur, who was mortal too insisted on not using this artifact, so the Tribunal almost killed him. Yet he managed to harness the power of artifact to survive and become god-like being too. Interesting parallels, isnt it? But here's more - Vivec is a warrior-poet, thus he's connected to Arbenos the warrior God. Almalexia - "the caring mother" for dunmers -connected with Nivaria, Sotha Sil - sage and inventor - connected with Thelume and last, but not least - Dagoth Ur, who rules over degraded dark elves, that are sick with corprus - a disease, invented by Dagoth Ur to "spread his divine powers alongside its followers" - connected with Tol. You will find more Morrowind lore on its respective wiki and find out that The Three Background was probably inspired from that game. I would like David to answer if it really was. However, some questions remain unanswered - how exactly The Three and Tol ascended? Were the disasters brought to Varannar (not Parasites, but others) brought by their ascension? Were they the only one who ascended (the eleven migh had been an ascended too). Share your thoughts.
 

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You bring up a comparison and a few points. Let's address them in order.

1) It's highly unlikely that David the Developer was "inspired" by Elder Scrolls 3 for the plot about The Three. Any story involving humans ascending is going to have similarities with every other story involving humans ascending. And spoiler alert, there's an in-game reference to FOUR humans ascending, not the just the Three talked about by the Church of The Three.

2) David has been purposefully vague of the exact mechanism for ascending for Tol and The Three. He has denied the four people in a tent reference being a reference to The Three (see here) so it's still pretty open to discussion. There's even a debate in-game about if The Three ascended or were always powerful.

3) What --if any-- consequences of the ascension of The Three isn't discussed in the game at all. Heck, per in-game statements, you might speculate about a certain powerful artifact being discovered, but that's not really explained.

A lot of the game's background lore is left deliberately vague.
 

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Well, first things first i described FOUR people ascending, either it was TLDR from you or my English is simply not good enough. The game hints that there might be more ppl ascended, like the Eleven. Also, aside from ascending the characters that i described share the same gender as the Three and same personalities and functions as the Three, as i described it above. And the Tol similarly to Dagoth Ur is a questionable antagonist, similarly to Dagoth Ur he wanted to create ideal world for his followers, which ended up being not so good. Also these "numina stones" might be an artifact which allowed ascension, similalry to Heart of Lorkhan in Morrowind.
 

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I get the points you're making but those are such high-attitude comparisons that you could make a similar argument for any number of games / stories / movies. It's basically a passing similarity.

Your posts read like you have an agenda. Rather than having a discussion on the various aspects of the plots, which are a common occurrence on this forum, you come off as trying to force a pre-conceived point for reasons unknown. It undercuts the ability to have a meaningful discussion.
 

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Well, for me its seems a bit more than passing similarity, but hey - it all might be a pure coincedence. Its up to anyone to decide if my points are valid, or not. Its not agenda really, what i would possibly gain from train to influence this point of view on anyone? The only thing achievable is dev confirming that Three lore is based on Morrowind lore That would be cool. Ascending of the Three and Tol, disasters brought to Varannar described by lady Xidar, Syllara and varannari witches - it all might be tighed together in some way
 

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The only thing achievable is dev confirming that Three lore is based on Morrowind lore
I can assure you, this game (and the next one) is David's original work.

In stricter sense of the word, it is not based on any preexisting story. But, as it always goes with us humans, we can have numerous influences from many different sources, most of them unknowingly influence our thoughts and actions.
 

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