Relation between Masive criticals and critical strikes

Vaaclav

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As long as I play with massive criticals (recently I advanced to next level and so I could increase lvl of Massive criticals to max and have 50% chance to kill weaker enemy) and have also precision strikes to increase chance to critical strike, I slowly begin to think that chance to kill weaker enemy with masive critical and chance to critical strike is in relation.

And why? Even if I know that 1-1-0-0-0-0-0-1-1-1 is still 50% like 1-0-1-0-1-0-1-0-1-0, if there would be not relation, massive criticals would appear a bit more often than now.

But I am not sure. And I will see what I will see after increasing of lvl of Precision strikes to lvl 2 and 3.
 

ClockworkGhost

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My warrior has all four of the warrior special skills at lvl 3. This gives me a 15% chance to critical with Icicle (usually a 6%, boosted by 150% through Precision Strikes). when I score a critical, I do 300% damage, or have a 50% chance to kill a weaker enemy.

Your chance to score a critical will never be 50%, no matter what you do. Your strike rate will never be 1-0-1-0-1-0-1-0, no matter what order the ones and zeros go in. At best, with the current build I'm using, it will be more like 1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-1.

Another thing to remember is the weapons speed - DPS records only average damage per second, not damage per strike. A faster weapon with a higher critical chance will potentially do more damage through criticals with this build than a slower weapon with a higher damage, making lighter and faster weapons more useful.
 

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With max precision and crit a dagger 7% base you'll insta kill about 9% of the time, with a 6% weapon 7% of the time, 5% weapon 5% ect..
 

Setrian

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I think the whole insta-kill thing for most people with the skill is rendered void by the fact that generally speaking a crit would just insta-kill anyway.
 

Vaaclav

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I don't think that critical strike (crit) is the same as insta-kill at all. Because you may hit enemy for (for example) a half of hitpoints instead 1%. It is critical strike. And massive critical does 100%.

Problem is in description of skill, statistics and understanding.
 

Setrian

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Vaaclav":31rlosfs said:
I don't think that critical strike (crit) is the same as insta-kill at all. Because you may hit enemy for (for example) a half of hitpoints instead 1%. It is critical strike. And massive critical does 100%.

Problem is in description of skill, statistics and understanding.

What I mean is that with massive critical, the damage you do is (generally) more than enough on a critical to kill most enemies that you would affect with the instant kill part of the ability. Unless you are not complimenting the skill with high damage. Although I can see the benefit of a ultra fast low dmg insta kill build with high crit. It would make farming much easier while still allowing for some tankiness.
 

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