Guide [Spoilers] Recipe for high reputation in all 4 kingdoms

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Darteous

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@Darteous you mean those random deserters that attack you all around Mercia are good guys? That's some very interesting standards! 🤔

As for Ilmara: if I recall right, you could do 4 townhall quests in a small city, and still get 100 points in the whole kingdom if you did everything right. My focus was on getting these hundreds, and legendary hero status.
Not all deserters turn into bandits. Defending yourself is one thing. But when you're hunting them it becomes self defense on their part.
 

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@Darteous well, yes, but actually, no. Those reputation gains indicate that you dispatched some bad guys. If the target is some Varannari druid or hunter, you gain some reputation in Mercia , and lose some reputation with Varannari, which means these quests are controversial, and your target could have been Varannari hero. Slave hunting townhall quests are pure business though, not even profitable overall, but enable gains if you're willing to put in resources.
 

DaleTilgo2022

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Why most deserters deserted can only be speculated. Given that a lot of them associate with criminals suggests they are mercenaries working for the highest bidder or criminal associates.
 

DavidBVal

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Often it's political maneuvers up-top against a rival military commander. Mercian legions are no longer following the imperial "enlisting" model that would be familiar to us, it has become a warrior-caste system in which a soldier's sons will one day become part of the same legion, and they become loyal not to the king, but to a certain commander in particular (typically the one in control of lands where the family women remain, administering over crops and slaves). Mercia is in many ways ruled by warlords, with the crown having limited powers.
 

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There are plenty of examples that in history.

The idea of getting too loyal to one commander was one of the reasons a lot of modern militaries rotate troops every few years. That, and it helps sort out staffing issues, promotion issues, etc.

But the idea of keeping the military loyal to the civilian leaders was cited by several countries when they first started doing it.
 

DaleTilgo2022

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DavidBVal -- Interesting insights. It would appear that the Mercian military takes elements from the Roman legions as well as European feudalism. Given how many of the Mercian kings died or how short their reins were suggests a tin pot dictatorship or the ruthlessness and political opportunism of the ancient Romans.​

Atomos -- I still consider the defectors who remain in Mercia fair game for two reasons. Firstly any defector who publicly renounced slavery and Mercian corruption would be given asylum in Ilmara. Aside from Ilmara taking the ethical high ground they could always use trained soldiers to combat any number of threats. Secondly if you remain in Mercia only to be a criminal or criminal associate or to plot a coup of your own then you are a clean bounty.​

 

Darteous

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DavidBVal -- Interesting insights. It would appear that the Mercian military takes elements from the Roman legions as well as European feudalism. Given how many of the Mercian kings died or how short their reins were suggests a tin pot dictatorship or the ruthlessness and political opportunism of the ancient Romans.​

Atomos -- I still consider the defectors who remain in Mercia fair game for two reasons. Firstly any defector who publicly renounced slavery and Mercian corruption would be given asylum in Ilmara. Aside from Ilmara taking the ethical high ground they could always use trained soldiers to combat any number of threats. Secondly if you remain in Mercia only to be a criminal or criminal associate or to plot a coup of your own then you are a clean bounty.​

That's very wishful thinking. There'd be too big a risk of spies if they just accepted every soldier that said they were a deserter they'd end up overrun and taken over from within. Always it's only the lucky few that find asylum when they reject the corrupt ways of their own country. Most end up dead or in very morally grey areas often with things like petty theft to get by for a time, which you can't really blame them for, it's that or starve as they no longer have the means to get by. How is planning a coup against a murderous tyrant wrong?
 
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DaleTilgo2022

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Atomos -- I doubt you're going to make it on the deserter blacklist for littering.​


Darteous -- In grandiose dictatorships like Nazi Germany you can't publicly declare a high ranking officer or official a traitor or an enemy of the state and then reverse your statement. So once the Mercian crown makes that official decree it's a death sentence for that commander and anyone under their command above a certain rank or tenure. In a previous post DavidBVal already stated that soldiers would tend to be loyal to their commanders over the crown. Now in a country where only the capital city itself is secured by the crown and the countryside is overrun with small groups of robbers who is going to stop a marching army headed for Ilmara?​


If anyone can provide clarification or correction please do. I'm under the impression that higher ranking Ilmaran clerics have prophetic visions and may even be empathic. I'm also under the impression that Thelume is wise beyond description and a mind reader. At this point you'd have better luck trying to deceive a Jedi.
 

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